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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

الأخوه و الأخوات هذا الموضوع اعتبره من الموضوعات الجاده و المهمه خصوصا في هذه الفتره ....مبدئيا فكره الرسائل الألكترونيه من الأخ طفشان فكره جيده و إذا شرع في تنفيذها تستطيع ان تحصل علي العديد من رسائل مختلفه المواضيع من المؤسسات الأسلاميه من علي النت...و السياسين و البيت الأبيض ليسوا في أحتياج لهذه الرسائل لأن عندهم الألاف منها و أصبحت كرسائل يوميه روتينيه .... لا تشكل اي فائده لنا وعلي هذا يجب ان نتجه الي مخاطبه الأمريكان انفسهم عن طريق المؤسسات التعليميه ...جامعات و المدارس التي لها ويب سايت و المؤسسات الأجتماعيه و الدينيه و أكرر الدينيه لشرح الصوره في أبسط صورها دون الدخول في تفسيرات دينيه غامضه المعني بالنسبه لهم و تسبب التشتت و التشويش علي الهدف الأساسي من الرساله و لكنني أؤمن ان افضل طريق و التحاور و المناقشه مع الأمريكان وجها لوجه و ما أفعله أنا شخصيا هو الكلام مع زملاء العمل و الأصدقاء و في الجوامع من خلال اللقاء مع مسلمين أمريكان الذين يتناقشواو يسألوا كطبيعه الأمريكان و عند الأقتناع سوف تجد خير مساعده منهم في توصيل ما تريد توصيله من أفكار و إذا تم طرح سؤال عليك لا تعرف أجابته او غير متأكد من الأجابه ...أجعل أجابتك بكلمه بسيطه و هي لا أعرف و لكن سوف ابحث عن الأجابه لك.....هذه الأجابه أفضل لهم من الحصول علي أجابه غير صحيحه او ناقصه و اسلوب التحاور وجها لوجه>... نستطيع نحن المقيمين في امريكا تبنيه اما الرسائل الألكتروني فهي مهمه الأخوه المقيمين خارج أمريكا...عندي طلب بسيط للأخوات المسلمات في المساعده في الحوارمع الأمريكيات المسلمات او غير مسلميات لأنهم في رأيي الشخصي من اكثر التسائلين و اكثر المستجبين للأسلام هنا بصوره ملفته .....

الرساله التاليه تلقيتها من صديق امريكي مسلم و الوقائع التي سوف تقرأها هي حقيقيه حدثت من فتره .....و محتوها يظهر مدي اقتناع كثير من الأمريكان و منهم بعض رجال الين بأن ما تفعله حكومتهم ليس صوابا.....انالم اقوم بترجمتها لأني اريدك ان تشعر بمدي صدق كلامتها.....Interesting . . .

>(This guy needs to be a Muslim)

>

> OPENING PRAYER - KANSAS STATE SENATE

> When Minister Joe Wright was asked to open the new

> session of the KANSAS SENATE, everyone was expecting

> the usual generalities, but this is what they heard:

>

> " Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask

> your forgiveness and to seek your direction and

> guidance. We know Your Word says, "Woe to those who

> call evil good," but that is exactly what we have

> done. Yes, there are those in government who have lead

> us astray by calling evil good!

>

> ...We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed

> our values. We confess that and we ask your help to

> change that,

>

> ...We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word

> and called it Pluralism. In fact, we have perverted

> the truth by calling some evil things good,

> We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery,

>

> ...We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare,

>

> ...We have killed our unborn and called it choice, and

> we have killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi born and

> unborn children and called it "worth it" instead of

> genocide (so said Secretary of State Albright) and

> "doing God's work" (George Bush, Sr.) - we know in our

> hearts that you really do not need a puny human to do

> your work, Father, and ...We have shot abortionists

> and called it justifiable,

>

> ...We have neglected to discipline our children and

> called it building self-esteem,

>

> ...We have abused power and called it politics, and we

> have been selective in recognizing crimes against

> humanity, calling it good one time and evil another

> time, depending upon the country doing it, and

> ignoring our own crimes against humanity, and

>

> ...We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and

> called it ambition, And we have trapped the American

> taxpayer, people of all religions, into subsidizing

> theft of land through murder, deceit, greed and lust

> for a neighbor's possessions, racism and bigotry by

> the apartheid state policies of Israel so that all

> Americans have become a party to actions that are

> considered criminal in the United States - and called

> this evil good and said YOU God, did it!

>

> ...We have polluted the air with profanity and

> pornography and called it freedom of statement, and we

> have quieted the voices of descent by calling them

> anti this or anti that, and

>

> ...We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our

> forefathers, some of whom (George Washington) warned

> us not to become entangled in a foreign government,

> and called it enlightenment.

>

> ...Search us, Oh, God, and know our hearts today;

> cleanse us from every sin and set us free from the

> evils of government policies that turn all of us into

> criminals.

>

> ...Guide and bless these men and women who have been

> sent: to direct us to the center of Your will so that

> they can say NO to the evils of AIPAC when it comes

> knocking with bribe money to influence them to lie to

> all their constituents that Israel is a friendly ally,

> the only democracy in the Middle East and is

> culturally and historically close to us so that we are

> being blinded to the crimes we are being forced to

> accept. (A true democracy does not discriminate

> against those of a different religion and a friendly

> ally does not reward spies with praise and money), and

> to openly ask these things in the name of your Son the

> living Savior, Jesus Christ

> ------- " Amen " -------

>

Egypt is my home , USA is my life.

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أكثر المشاركين في هذا الموضوع

أكثر المشاركين في هذا الموضوع

الاخ كوا

اشكرك على هذا التعليق

و لكن لا تظن ان عدد الرسائل الكثير عند فروع الحكومة المختلفة يجعلنا نتقاعس عن الكتابة، على العكس، اكتب و ابعت اكثر و اكثر

لا تنســـــــــــــــــــوا وســــــــــائل الاعلام، فهي هامة جدا جدا جدا

الجامعات و المدارس شئ جيد جدا ايضا

اما الحوار وجها لوجه فهو افضل الطرق، و مثمر جدا، مع من يود الاستفسار، غير الحوار على الملأ مع من يريد و من لا يريد و لكنه غير متاح لاغلب رواد المنتدى

و هذا الكلام من القسيس هام جدا:

so that

they can say NO to the evils of AIPAC when it comes

knocking with bribe money to influence them to lie to

all their constituents that Israel is a friendly ally,

the only democracy in the Middle East and is

culturally and historically close to us so that we are

being blinded to the crimes we are being forced to

accept. (A true democracy does not discriminate

against those of a different religion and a friendly

ally does not reward spies with praise and money)

هل تعرفون من هي AIPAC؟

America Israel Public Affairs Council

انها عصب الحياة لاسرائيل

انها اللوبي الصهيوني الذي يغدق الاموال على المرشحين و ينفق الملايين على الدعاية و يحرض الكونجرس على سن القوانين في صالح اسرائيل

فيجب تأييد هذا الرجل فيما قال، لانه بالقطع سيتلقى مئات الرسائل من يهود غاضبون

و هاكم مثال على ما تفعله احدى المنظمات الاسلامية هنا

موضوع طازة، و ان كان غير سياسي، فدعوة بوش للتنديد في هذا فكرة ذكية جدا، لانه لو سمع الكلام و ندد، فقد حدث المطلوب، و يمكن اسكات هؤلاء و ايضا قد يخسر بوش اصوات ناخبين، و لو لم يسمع الكلام، فالمؤسسات تستخدم عدم التنديد مستقبلا كمثال للتقاعس عن تاييد حقوق المسلمين

ففي الحالتين نحن مستفيدون

و هذه هي الحنكة السياسية

و بالمناسبة، هل تعلمون من هو سواجرت؟ هو من مبشري التلفزيون، ممن جمعوا اموال طائلة من تبرعات البسطاء و المخدوعين، و عامل نفسه سعراوي امريكا

تم ضبط هذا الرجل مع فتاة ليل في فندق رخيص و افتضح امره، و العجيب انه بالرغم من هذا، ما زال له جمهوره و معجبيه

In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

BUSH AGAIN URGED TO REPUDIATE ANTI-MUSLIM HATE

Jimmy Swaggart to U.S. Muslims: "If you say one word, you're gone"

(WASHINGTON, D.C., 11/13/02) - A prominent national Islamic civil rights

and advocacy group today again called on President Bush and other elected

officials to repudiate anti-Islamic rhetoric, just as American Muslims

repudiate anti-Christian or anti-Semitic hate speech.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) made that request

following two more in a series of attacks on Islam and Muslims by

right-wing and evangelical commentators. (CAIR recently issued a statement

opposing anti-Semitism that read in part: "Just as we ask others to condemn

anti-Muslim rhetoric.we must challenge those who would fan the flames of

anti-Semitism.")

In a November 10 broadcast, televangelist Jimmy Swaggart referred to the

Prophet Muhammad as a "sex deviant" and "pervert." He also called for the

expulsion of all foreign Muslim university students in the United States

and for profiling of airline passengers "with a diaper on their head and a

fan-belt around their waist." Of American Muslims, Swaggart said: "We ought

to tell every other Moslem (sic) living in this nation that if you say one

word, you're gone."

SEE: rtsp://www.freedomstream.net/jsm/jsm_111002.rm

Forward your media player to minute 39.

CAIR also called on the president to repudiate similar comments made this

week by televangelist Pat Robertson describing Muslims as being "worse than

the Nazis." (AFP, Reuters) Robertson has in the past called the Prophet

Muhammad "an absolute wild-eyed fanatic," a "robber" and a "brigand." He

also called Islam "a monumental scam" and claimed the Quran, Islam's

revealed text, "is strictly a theft of Jewish theology." (A charity created

by Robertson, recently received a $500,000 grant under the president's

faith-based initiative.)

In October, evangelical leader Jerry Falwell referred to the Prophet

Muhammad as a "terrorist" on the CBS news program "60 Minutes." At least 10

people died in India during Hindu-Muslim clashes triggered by Falwell's

comments. Franklin Graham, another evangelical leader, has called Islam an

"evil and wicked religion."

These and other attacks on Islam come as the State Department is engaged in

a worldwide ad campaign to portray Americans as being free of anti-Muslims

bias.

"It is time for the president to step up to the plate on the issue of

Islamophobia in America. Merely repeating the mantra that Islam is a

'religion of peace' does little to stem the rising tide of anti-Muslim hate

or to mitigate the negative impact that hate has on Muslim families," said

CAIR Board Chairman Omar Ahmad.

He said the president's silence on this issue serves to divide America

along religious lines, harms our nation's image worldwide and hinders the

international effort to combat terrorism by alienating allies in the Muslim

world.

- END -

CONTACT: Ibrahim Hooper, 202-488-8787 or 202-744-7726, E-MAIL:

cair@cair-net.org; Ms. Hodan Hassan, 202-488-8787 or 703-861-7294, E-MAIL:

hhassan@cair-net.org

NOTE: CAIR offers an e-mail list designed to be a window to the American

Muslim community. Subscribers to the list, called CAIR-NET, receive news

releases and other materials dealing with American Muslim positions on

issues of importance to our society.

To SUBSCRIBE to CAIR-NET, go to: http://cair.biglist.com/cair-net/

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To SUBSCRIBE to or UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, go to:

http://cair.biglist.com/cair-net/

To reach the list moderator, send a message to: cair@cair-net.org

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CAIR

Council on American-Islamic Relations

453 New Jersey Avenue, S.E.

Washington, D.C. 20003

Tel: 202-488-8787, 202-744-7726

Fax: 202-488-0833

E-mail: cair@cair-net.org

URL: http://www.cair-net.org

و ها هي رسالة اخرى وصلتني اليوم

In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

AMERICAN MUSLIM NEWS BRIEFS - 11/13/2002

HEADLINES:

* HADITH OF THE DAY: A GOOD WORD

* CAIR LIBRARY PROJECT UPDATE

* INCITEMENT WATCH: D'SOUZA - ISLAM PRODUCES OIL AND DEAD BODIES

- Incitement Watch: Terrorism Has 'Everything to Do with Islam'

* MUSLIM GROUP CRITICIZES US TELEVANGELIST ROBERTSON (Reuters)

- AJC Criticizes Robertson for Comments Denigrating Islam

- Editorial: Trashing Islam (Yahoo News)

* DANIEL PIPES AND "THE WAR ON ACADEMIC FREEDOM" (The Nation)

* SCHOOL, STUDENTS SETTLE PRAYER ISSUE (Columbus Dispatch)

* MUSLIMS JOIN FORCES TO SHOW POSITIVE SIDE (Sydney Morning Herald)

* MUSLIM TRAVELER TO U.S. SPEAKS OUT

* THIS WAY FORWARD FOR MUSLIMS (Toronto Globe and Mail)

* BUSH FIGHTS FOR ANOTHER CLEAN SHOT IN HIS WAR (Independent)

* GUJARAT GENOCIDE AWARENESS WEEK STARTS TODAY

* INTERACTIVE WEBSITE ON RAMADAN

* SMITHSONIAN PREVIEWS PROPHET MUHAMMAD DOCUMENTARY

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HADITH OF THE DAY: A GOOD WORD

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "A man speaks a good word,

not realizing its worth, for which God records for him His good pleasure

till the day he meets Him. A man also speaks an evil word, not realizing

its importance, for which God records for him His displeasure till the day

he meets Him."

Al-Tirmidhi, Hadith 1241

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CAIR LIBRARY PROJECT UPDATE

CAIR's Library Project has received 1472 sponsorships for $150 book and

tape packages on Islam to be placed in libraries across the country. Take

part in this first-of-its-kind campaign by sponsoring an 18-item "library

package." Our goal is to, inshallah, send accurate and objective

information about Islam to America's 16,000 public libraries.

TO SPONSOR A LIBRARY PACKAGE, GO TO: www.libraryproject.org

OR CALL: 1-800-392-7876, ext. 320

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INCITEMENT WATCH: D'SOUZA SAYS ISLAM PRODUCES OIL AND DEAD BODIES

Audience Offended By Author

Sarah Okeson, PJ Star, 11/13/02

http://www.pjstar.com/news/topnews/g100994a.html

PEORIA - Professional provocateur Dinesh D'Souza, who founded a bestiality

club during his days at Dartmouth, started his speech in Peoria by

comparing his tussles with the college's administration to wrestling a pig:

Everyone gets dirty and the pig enjoys it.

The conservative author Tuesday briefly traced the history of Islamic

civilization - it was great, but Western civilization overtook it, he said

- in his talk to the Peoria Area World Affairs Council at the Contemporary

Art Center.

But what drew challenges from the audience were his insults and

controversial views.

"Islam today seems to produce two things," D'Souza said. "Oil and dead

bodies. Islamic radicalism is gaining ground in the Middle East as a way of

coping with humiliation. It's gaining influence in the 22 countries of the

Middle East because it offers, if you will, a way out."

D'Souza, who tempered his remarks somewhat after being challenged and

seemed eager to end his talk, has built a career on doing this sort of

thing, challenging taboos with an enthusiasm usually seen in adolescents.

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INCITEMENT WATCH: TERRORISM HAS 'EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM'

Marc Morano, CNSNews.com, 11/13/02

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page...T20021113a.html

(CNSNews.com) - Robert Spencer, author of Islam Unveiled and an adjunct

fellow at the conservative think tank Free Congress Foundation, believes

Islam's theological foundation is creating many of today's terrorists and

would-be terrorists.

Spencer's book takes a critical look at the religion of Islam, its holy

book, The Koran, its prophet Muhammad and concludes that the religion is

producing violent behavior in a significant numbers of its adherents.

"The religious motivation [for terrorism] is paramount for millions of

these people and if we don't recognize that, we are going to be ill

equipped in the face of what we are up against," Spencer told CNSNews.com.

Spencer believes the U.S. is not prepared to fight a war on terrorism

because the nation fails to understand the true nature of Islam.

Ibrahim Hooper, communications director for the Council on American-Islamic

Relations (CAIR), was more blunt in defending Islam from charges that it

encourages terrorism.

"When people of other faiths commit crimes or violent acts, people don't

generalize to the whole faith, but when a Muslim commits a violent act,

somehow it is an indictment to their entire faith," Hooper told CNSNews.com...

Hooper believes that since the Sept. 11 terror attacks, there has been "a

new cottage industry of defamatory attacks on Islam."

"If you want to make a buck now, attack Islam," Hooper said. "When it is

done to Christianity or Judaism, people in authority object. When it is

done to Islam, it gets a pass," he added.

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MUSLIM GROUP CRITICIZES US TELEVANGELIST ROBERTSON

Reuters, 11/13/02

WASHINGTON - An American Muslim group on Tuesday condemned televangelist

Pat Robertson's comment that Muslims' attitudes toward Jews were "worse

than the Nazis" and urged U.S. President George W. Bush to repudiate the

remarks.

In a recent broadcast, Robertson said that Muslims were bent on killing

Jews and that any hope of negotiating a peace agreement by giving Muslims

territory was an illusion.

Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) spokesman Ibrahim Hooper

responded to those remarks on Tuesday: "We would call on elected leaders

and religious leaders to repudiate these kinds of comments. Time and again

we see attacks on Islam go unchallenged."

"We would call on President Bush to specifically repudiate these attacks.

Saying that Islam is a religion of peace is not enough. These people

respect President Bush and if he said: 'Knock it off, you're setting up a

civilizational conflict, which does nobody any good,' they would listen,"

he added.

Other U.S. Christian conservatives, who largely supported Bush's election,

have angered Muslims with some recent remarks, including conservative

preacher Jerry Falwell's statement last month that the prophet Mohammed was

a "terrorist."

Recalling Falwell's statements, Hooper said: "It does incredible damage to

America's image in the Muslim world just at a time when we need allies in

the war on terrorism."

Bush has not criticized such comments but he has tried to promote tolerance

toward Muslims by visiting a mosque after the Sept. 11 attacks and by

hosting a White House Iftar, the meal breaking daily fasts during the

Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

SEE ALSO:

AJC CRITICIZES REV. PAT ROBERTSON FOR COMMENTS DENIGRATING ISLAM

http://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/PressRelease...ses.asp?did=682

November 13, 2002 - NEW YORK -- The American Jewish Committee today

sharply criticized the Rev. Pat Robertson for his sweeping condemnation of

Islam.

"While there are highly disturbing trends of anti-Semitism and, more

generally, intolerance in the Muslim world, the Rev. Robertson's wholesale

denigration of an entire faith, by calling Muslims 'worse than Nazis,' is

outrageous," said David A. Harris, executive director of the American

Jewish Committee.

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EDITORIAL: TRASHING ISLAM

Maggie Gallagher, Yahoo.com, 11/12/02

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor.../105/2o56v.html

Meanwhile, at about the same time, New York Times reporter Maureen Dowd was

touring Saudi Arabia, mesmerized by what she saw as the internal

contradictions of Islamic repression: "Frederick's of Hollywood-style

lingerie shops abound, even though female sexuality is considered so

threatening that the mere sight of a woman's ankle will cause civilization

to crumble," she ponders...

Fellow New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof was even worse, apparently

spending his precious visa in Saudi Arabia going up to veiled Saudi women

and asking them why they did not show him a little leg...

What is it with these stereotypical puerile Americans -- ignorant,

provincial, obsessed with sexual license as the marker of human liberty?

Elites who claim to want to promote a better understanding of Islam should

start by realizing that democracy and human rights do not require sexual

libertinism. To suggest that in order to modernize, Muslim societies need

to embrace the worst of the trashy commercialism of Western culture is not

true and deeply self-defeating...

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DANIEL PIPES AND "THE WAR ON ACADEMIC FREEDOM"

Kristine McNeil, The Nation, 11/11/02

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20021...25&c=1&s=mcneil

The year since Congress passed the USA Patriot Act has brought an

ever-growing enemies list from our nation's thought police.

Based in Philadelphia and headed by anti-Arab propagandist Daniel Pipes,

Campus Watch unleashed an Internet firestorm in late September, when it

posted "dossiers" on eight scholars who have had the audacity to criticize

US foreign policy and the Israeli occupation. As a gesture of solidarity,

more than 100 academics subsequently contacted the Middle East Forum asking

to be added to the list. In response, Pipes has since posted 146 new names,

all identified as supporters of "apologists for suicide bombings and

militant Islam." He also claims "most of the writers are academics from

fields other than Middle East studies (and so are not qualified to judge

the work of the academics we listed)." By this standard, he is similarly

unqualified, as he is not a professor and his PhD was earned in medieval

history. Of the Campus Watch eight, seven are modernists. Hamid Dabashi of

Columbia teaches and writes about both medieval and modern Iranian social

history.

As with redbaiting during the 1950s, the leaders of these current attacks

are exploiting the fear and anxiety the American public feels about enemies

abroad in order to advance their own political agenda. Now with access to

the Internet, Pipes and his supporters have been able to expand their

attacks into a virtually limitless campaign of harassment and intimidation.

Since the dossiers were first posted, the targeted professors have been

inundated with hostile spam, rendering their e-mail accounts almost

useless, and most have been victims of "spoofing," in which their

identities are stolen and thousands of offensive e-mail messages sent out

in their names. More than one scholar has received telephone death threats.

When University of Michigan history professor Juan Cole reported that he

and his colleagues had been disabled by thousands of hate messages a day

since their dossiers were posted, Pipes claimed to be shocked, shocked! at

the response his website has elicited. "If Professor Cole has in fact been

subject to such harassment, Campus Watch joins him in demanding that

whoever stands behind this reprehensible behavior cease immediately," he

told the History News Network, but he has yet to post a statement on the site.

The Campus Watch site is a showcase for the signature distortions on which

Pipes has built his twenty-five-year career. He twists words, quotes people

out of context and stretches the truth to suit his purpose.

Aside from the dossiers, the site's McCarthyite "Keep Us Informed" section

has provoked the most outrage, as it encourages students to inform on their

professors, rather than challenge them openly as part of the academic process.

Pipes is notorious in the academy for calling Muslims "barbarians" and

"potential killers" in a 2001 National Review article and accusing them of

scheming to "replace the [uS] Constitution with the Koran," in a similar

piece in Insight on the News. Along these lines, a 1990 National Review

article insisted that "Western European societies are unprepared for the

massive immigration of brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and

maintaining different standards of hygiene.... All immigrants bring exotic

customs and attitudes, but Muslim customs are more troublesome than most."

In addition to running the Middle East Forum, serving on a Defense

Department antiterrorism task force and writing columns for the Jerusalem

and New York Post, Pipes is also a regular contributor to the website of

Gamla, an organization founded by former Israeli military officers and

settlers that endorses the ethnic cleansing of every Palestinian as "the

only possible solution" to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

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SCHOOL, STUDENTS SETTLE PRAYER ISSUE

Columbus Dispatch, 11/13/02

http://www.dispatch.com/

A dispute over Ramadan prayers at Brookhaven High School has been resolved,

a Columbus Public Schools spokesman said yesterday.

Andrew Marcelain said eight or nine students, some of whom left class,

gathered outside the school to pray on Thursday. It was the second day of

Ramadan, the holiest month of the year for Muslims.

The students later met with Principal Robert Murphy, who explained the

district's policy on prayer in schools, Marcelain said. The students

returned to class and were not disciplined.

The district allows students to pray as long as they do not disrupt their

or others' class time, Marcelain said.

Ahmad Al-Akhras, president of the Ohio chapter of the Council on

American-Islamic Relations, said he talked with the students and expected

to meet with school officials.

"We support the students' decision to pray at school. . . . At the same

time, we maintain that these acts should not also be disruptive to the

school," Al-Akhras said yesterday.

During Ramadan, a time of reflection and fasting, Muslims are encouraged to

be diligent about prayer and to try to pray in groups.

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MUSLIMS JOIN FORCES TO SHOW POSITIVE SIDE

Linda Morris, Sydney Morning Herald, 11/13/02

http://www.smh.com.au/

A national civil rights and media advocacy group will be established in the

wake of the Bali bombings to promote greater understanding of Australia's

Muslim community.

It will be closely modelled on the Council on American-Islamic Relations

which offers an Islamic perspective on issues of importance to the American

public.

Organiser Kuranda Seyit, a spokesman for the Australian Federation of

Islamic Councils, said a grassroots body giving a single strong voice to

Australian Muslims should be up and running by early next year. The move

comes amid growing concerns about the reporting of Muslim issues in the

Australian media.

The executive director of the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic

Relations, Nihad Awad, recently visited Sydney at the invitation of the

Federation of Australian Muslim Students and Youth.

The council works with media professionals to help shape a positive image

of Islam and monitors local, national and international media to challenge

negative stereotypes of Islam and Muslims.

Mr Seyit said the Australian version of the council would be based in

Sydney with a chapter in Melbourne. Eventually it would have a presence in

all states. "Hopefully it will become the voice of the Australian Muslim

community, effective in creating trust in the community, inclusive of all

minorities and sects and transparent..."

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MUSLIM TRAVELER TO U.S. SPEAKS OUT

In an e-mail to CAIR, a frequent visitor to the United States speaks out

against new INS registration guidelines targeting nationals from specific

Muslim countries:

"As I type this email, I am stricken with despair and sadness. I am a dual

citizen of the UK and Syria; accordingly, though I am present in the U.S.

as a British citizen, I just found out today that I am required to show up

at an INS interview center for a "Special Registration" process.

Apparently, I am to be fingerprinted, photographed, and interviewed, and

then my data is to be entered into a terrorist screening computer database.

I find this practice morally reprehensible and a smack in the face of any

civil liberties the government of this nation claims to stand for. This

process is akin to saying that all African-American males of a certain age

group need to be registered as potential drug dealers in a drug trafficking

screening computer database...

While I understand the need to track foreigners in this country, I take

great offense to the notion that I should be profiled and targeted because

of a nationality and/or a religion. The mere idea that I would be placed on

such a computer database worries me in terms of my future. In this age of

global connectivity, will this list come back to haunt me if I change jobs,

if I visit my family overseas, if I start my own business, or if I give

Zakat or charitable donations? I am so distraught and offended that I am

entertaining throwing everything I worked so hard for and going back to

Syria; where with its less-than-perfect human rights records, I was never

treated with this humiliation...

When I came to the U.S. to study and work, I was in love with this country

and what it stood for. I grew up admiring the United States in its pursuit

of happiness, justice, and liberty for all. I watched American movies,

listened to American music, I had American friends, and I even sported an

American accent over my British one. Today, I am questioning those convictions.

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EDITORIAL: THIS WAY FORWARD FOR MUSLIMS

Sheema Khan, Toronto Globe and Mail, 11/13/02

الوصلة

Sheema Khan is chair of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Canada.

Long before Sept. 11, Muslim scholars and activists were asking, "What's

wrong with the Muslim world?" The consensus can best be summarized by the

Koranic verse, "God does not change the condition of people until they

change what is within themselves."

Classical Muslim scholars explained this verse to mean that God showers

blessings upon people, and only changes their condition when they forget

their humble beginnings, substituting gratefulness with arrogance.

Thirteen centuries later, as Muslim populations emerged from colonialism,

activists returned to this verse, albeit with a different take. Wretched

conditions will not change, they exhorted, until people take the initiative

to change their own condition. It was, in essence, a call to recover the

dynamic Islamic tenet of personal responsibility for one's actions before

the Creator...

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EDITORIAL: BUSH FIGHTS FOR ANOTHER CLEAN SHOT IN HIS WAR

Robert Fisk, Independent (UK), 11/13/02

http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=349952

I'm a cynical critic of the US media, but last month Newsweek ran a brave

and brilliant and terrifying report on the Chechen war. In a deeply moving

account of Russian cruelty in Chechnya, it recounted a Russian army raid on

an unprotected Muslim village. Russian soldiers broke into a civilian home

and shot all inside. One of the victims was a Chechen girl. As she lay

dying of her wounds, a Russian soldier began to rape her. "Hurry up Kolya,"

his friend shouted, "while she's still warm."

Now, I have a question. If you or I was that girl's husband or lover or

brother or father, would we not be prepared to take hostages in a Moscow

theatre? Even if this meant - as it did - that, asphyxiated by Russian gas,

we would be executed with a bullet in the head, as the Chechen women

hostage-takers were? But no matter. The "war on terror" means that Kolya

and the boys will be back in action soon, courtesy of Messrs Putin, Bush

and Blair.

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GUJARAT GENOCIDE AWARENESS WEEK STARTS TODAY

Press release, Indian Muslim Council, 11/13/02

AMC, CAIR, ICNA and ISNA have endorsed Indian Muslim Council's call that

the second week of Ramadan that starts on Wednesday the 13th of November be

observed as the Gujarat Genocide Remembrance Week and the Friday November

15 as the Gujarat Genocide Remembrance Day.

Actions Requested:

- Hold special prayer services especially after the nightly taraweeh

prayers for the thousands of innocent victims who were brutally killed,

maimed and gang-raped and also for hundreds of thousands who were displaced

from their homes.

- Write to the media and your Senator and Congressperson to send a

fact-finding delegation to Gujarat India. The contact addresses of your

representatives can be obtained from Congress.org or from www.imacweb.org

or by calling 202-224-3121

- Collect donations to help the education and advocacy work of IMC-USA to

prevent future genocides of Indian Muslims. Send donations to IMC-USA, 265

Sunrise Highway, Suite1-355, Rockville Centre, NY 11570

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INTERACTIVE WEBSITE ON RAMADAN

The British newspaper, The Guardian, has set up the following interactive

website on Ramadan:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/flash/0,5860,837833,00.html

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SMITHSONIAN PREVIEWS PROPHET MUHAMMAD DOCUMENTARY

WHAT: The Freer Gallery previews excerpts of the upcoming PBS documentary

"Muhammad: Legacy of a Prophet." A panel discussion with producer Alexander

Kronemer, calligrapher Muhammad Zakariyah, congressional staff member

Jameel Johnson, and others following the screening.

WHERE: The Freer Gallery, Smithsonian, Washington, D.C.

WHEN: Thursday, November 14, 7 P.M.

For further information, call (202) 357-4880

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هاهو بوش يستجيب لطلب المسلمين و يندد بالهجوم على الاسلام

طبعا لن يقلب هذا الدنيا رأسا على عقب، و ينهي مشاكل العرب كلها بين ليلة و ضحاها، و لكن لو لم يطالبوا بهذا، لكانت النتيجة المحتومة هي عدم التنديد

فالمحاولة ضرورية، و الاستجابة على الله

الوصلة

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منقول من موضوع بروتوكولات حكماء صهيون، لارتباطه بموضوعنا هنا

الطفشان كتب

زي ما غاندي استطاع قلب الرأي العام الانجليزي لصالحه باتباع اسلوب العصيان المدني و الكفاح السلمي، عشان ما يمسكوش عليه حاجة، و يتحججوا بيها

مش كدة و الا ايه؟

زولو كتب

كده ونص يا استاذ طفشان ، لقد اصبت كبد الحقيقة يا رجل ، ليس فقط غاندى ، هناك ايضا حركة السود فى جنوب افريقيا بزعامة نيلسون مانديلا التى اكتسبت الرأى العام العالمى واجبرت العالم على مقاطعة الحكومة البيضاء فى جوهانسبرج ، وهناك الفيتناميون فى مواجهة الجيش الامريكى حتى قيل ان الفيتناميين انتصروا على امريكا فى واشنطن ونييويورك وليس فى ميدان المعركة ، ولا تنس محاولات مصطفى كامل حين راح يجوب عواصم الغرب ليشرح قضيته فى الصحف واوساط الاعلاميين والمثقفين لا ليقول لهم : ابعدوا الانجليز الكفار احفاد الخنازير عن بلادنا ، بل ليقول : ان الامة المصرية تستحق الاستقلال والحرية، ويقول ايضا : نحن نحترم الشعب البريطانى وثقافته ونريد ان نكون على علاقة وثيقة به لكنها يجب ان تكون علاقة بين بلدين مستقلين ، وهناك امثلة اخرى لضحايا تصرفوا كضحايا وامتلكوا الحجة الاخلاقية ليكسبوا العقول والقلوب وحققوا مطالبها فى مواجهة خصوم اقوى منها بكثير

الطفشان كتب

من قديم الزمان قال خبراء العسكرية ان مصير اي معركة حربية يتحدد قبل ان تصطف الصفوف و تبدأ المعركة

عندما ياتي اليوم الذي نفهم فيه ان جبهة المعركة الاساسية هي اولا سياسية و اعلامية و ليست عسكرية، هذا سيكون بداية يوم النصر لنا

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ولماذا نذهب بعيدا ، ان اسرائيل (وهى جلاد) تصرفت وما زالت تتصرف وتكسب التعاطف كضحية ، وقد حدث اثناء حرب 67 ان كان الجيش الاسرائيلى يفعل ما فعله بينما مندوب اسرائيل لدى الامم المتحدة وغيره فى العواصم الغربية يوزعون ترجمات لاغانى عربية تتوعد بسحق اليهود وتحويل اسرائيل الى جحيم من النيران ، هذا بينما الفلسطينيون (وهم ضحايا) يتصرفون كجلاد ويخاطبون العالم بلغة الجلاد ين

الطفشان كتب

بمناسبة الاغاني

ما زال هناك هذا المجهود مستمر، و هناك مؤسسة اسمها MEMRI في امريكا اسسها يهود صهاينة، تقرأ صحف العرب و تتباع الاخبار و تترجمها و ترسلها الى الصحف و التليفزيون و مستشاري الجكومة و صناع القرار، و بالطبع تنتقي ما يؤيد وجهة النظر الاسرائيلية و تبرز كيف ان العرب مهووسين منحازين متعصبين متشددين

و هذا ينعكس بالطبع على سياسات امريكا

و قد كتب صحفي بريطاني عنهم هنا

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4480174,00.html

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نتائج مستمرة للاعتراض لدى الحكومة الامريكية على الاساءة للاسلام

لو سكتنا و اذعننا لعقدة الضحية يبقى نستاهل اللي يجرى لنا

او اعترضنا، فاما ان يسمعونا و هو المطلوب، و اما ان نكون حاولنا على الاقل

POWELL CRITICIZES FALWELL, ROBERTSON

Associated Press, 11/14/02

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0...2170824,00.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - Secretary of State Colin Powell, responding to

anti-Muslim remarks by conservative Christian leaders, said Thursday, "This

kind of hatred must be rejected."

Powell, speaking to a gathering of businessmen at the State Department,

echoed remarks on Wednesday by President Bush, who took issue with comments

by Christian Coalition leader Pat Robertson and the Rev. Jerry Falwell.

Powell said, "We will reject the kinds of comments you have seen recently

where people in this country say that Muslims are responsible for the

killing of all Jews."

He added that this kind of language ``must be spoken out against. We cannot

allow this image to go forth of America, because it is an inaccurate image

of America...

In a similar vein Bush said on Wednesday that some recent comments about

Islam "do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of

most Americans."

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أعتقد أن هذا الموضوع يجب أن يعامل ليس كأي موضوع أخر .. نريد رد من إدارة هذا المنتدى هل ستوافقون على فتح باب جديد باللغة الإنجليزية أم لا .؟؟

هل ستوافون على فتح مواضع ثابت بأعلى باب أحداث سبتمبر يوضع في هذا الموضوع رسائل المنظمات الإسلامية العاملة في المجتمع الأمريكي بحيث يكون نعلم جميعا تطورات الأحداث بين المسلمين والحكومة الأمريكية على أرض الواقع ونبدأ الكتابة لهم .

أم إن الموضوع بالكامل ليس أكثر من تفريخ شحنة إنفعالية .

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مسلمو أميركا يبدأون حملة كبرى للدفاع عن النبي محمد

الحملة تستهدف الرد على الحملات الأخيرة التي شنها قادة اليمين المتطرف ضد شخصية الرسول الكريم.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم .. إن المنافقين فى الدرك الأسفل من النار ولن تجد لهم نصيرا .. صدق الله العظيم ( النساء – 145 )
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تعليقا على الصورة

مسئولي مؤسسة كير

اقصى اليسار : ابراهيم هوبر (لابس طاقية)، و هو امريكي ابيض، كان كاثوليكي و اسلم

الثاني من اليمين، نهاد عوض، فلسطيني

و هناك ايضا جيسون ارب، و هو امريكي ابيض ايضا

و من الطريف انه بعد عدة سنين من الادارة من قبل عرب او مسلمين مهاجرين، بدأ انضمام المسلمين من امريكا نفسها لهذه المؤسسة، و الفرق انه عندما يتكلمون مع الاعلام و الحكومة، لا يوجد لكنة او ملامح شرق اوسطية او باكستانية، فتعطي انطباع بان هؤلاء اغراب

و هذا من الحنكة السياسية و الدروس التي وعاها المسلمين هنا بسرعة

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بالرغم من استنكار بوش، الكنائس الانجيلية تواصل انتقاصها للاسلام

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNe...ians021118.html

استطلاع رأي عن الاسلام في امريكا

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNew...poll021025.html

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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

الأخ طفشان...كثير من رجال الدين المسيحي الذين لهم مكانه في المجتمع يحاولوا السباحه مع التيار السائد الأن ضد الأسلام بغرض مكاسب ماديه و أعلاميه في المجتمع الأمريكي و في رأئي الشخصي بسبب هدفين ....الهدف الأول لمجاراه القرارات السياسيه و بناء علي ذلك زياده المنح الحكوميه و العمل علي زياده التبرعات من المترددين علي الكنائس....لأن المنح و التبرعات هو الدخل الأساسي لهم و لعائلتهم بأسم خدمه الكنيسه.....سواء بيضاء او سوداء....الهدف الثاني هو العمل علي وقف التيار الفكري المتزاد المتطلع للمعرفه عن الأسلام و دخول البعض فيه...و جذب الأنظار عن فضيحه القساوسه الجنسيه مع الأطفال و الراهبات و التي أخذت حيز أعلامي كبيرا و مازالت و هزت صوره رجال الدين الي حد ما ....و طبعا بوش يجب ان يستجيب سريعا لما يقال عن الأسلام ....علشان يريح دماغه من اي أحتجاج يصدر في هذا الشأن .....و أشعر ان العمل علي تشويه صوره الأسلام من جانب رجال الدين انه مع الوقت يأتي بنتائج عكسيه ...اما استطلاعات الرأي عن الأسلام في هذه الفتره سوف تكون النتائج مرضيه لأعداء الأسلام طبعا بسبب الحروب و أسامه و الأحداث الجاريه في الشرق الأوسط.....و أدعو الله ان تنتهي هذه الموجه من العداء....و يظهر الحق أنشاء الله

Egypt is my home , USA is my life.

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كثير من رجال الدين المسيحي الذين لهم مكانه في المجتمع يحاولوا السباحه مع التيار السائد الأن ضد الأسلام بغرض مكاسب ماديه و أعلاميه في المجتمع الأمريكي

اتفق معك في هذا

و في رأئي الشخصي بسبب هدفين ....

الهدف الأول لمجاراه القرارات السياسيه و بناء علي ذلك زياده المنح الحكوميه و العمل علي زياده التبرعات من المترددين علي الكنائس....لأن المنح و التبرعات هو الدخل الأساسي لهم و لعائلتهم بأسم خدمه الكنيسه.....سواء بيضاء او سوداء....

اتفق ايضا في هذا، و ازيد ان الفلوس ليست هي الدافع الوحيد، و لكن هناك ايضا النفوذ و الجاه مع ازدياد عدد الاتباع و المريدين و المحبين

الهدف الثاني هو العمل علي وقف التيار الفكري المتزاد المتطلع للمعرفه عن الأسلام و دخول البعض فيه...

صحيح

هناك ايضا نوع من عدم الثقة بالنفس عندهم، و يشعرون ان اي كلمة طيبة على مذهب او دين مخالف ستجعل الناس يتركون دينهم، و من ثم فالهجوم افضل وسيلة للدفاع

هناك ايضا العامل النفسي الذي يؤدي للاعجاب بالقسيس لانه يقول الحق و لا يخاف ان يتهم بالعنصرية او غيرها

و جذب الأنظار عن فضيحه القساوسه الجنسيه مع الأطفال و الراهبات و التي أخذت حيز أعلامي كبيرا و مازالت و هزت صوره رجال الدين الي حد ما

هذه اختلف معك فيها

الفضائح هي في الكاثوليك، و ليست في البروتستنت

و الحقيقة ان الكاثوليك حتى الان لم يتطاولوا على الاسلام، او على الاقل لم يفعلوا ذلك على الملأ كما فعله قساوسة الكنائس البروتستنت مثل جيمي سواجرت و جيري فالويل و بات روبرتسون و فرانكلين جراهام و غيرهم

و أشعر ان العمل علي تشويه صوره الأسلام من جانب رجال الدين انه مع الوقت يأتي بنتائج عكسيه

صحيح

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بدلا من الصراخ و العويل و القاء اللوم على الاخرين و السقوط في عقدة الضحية، او السب و اللعن، نجد مجهود ايجابي فعال يهدف الى تغيير واقع

متى نفهم و نتعلم و نخطط و نعمل

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MUSLIMS FILE DISCIPLINARY COMPLAINT AGAINST ALAN DERSHOWITZ

Harvard Professor Advocates War Crimes Says Muslim Legal Group

(WASHINGTON D.C., 11/21/02) - An American Muslim legal group today

announced the filing of a complaint with the Massachusetts Board of Bar

Overseers demanding disciplinary action against Harvard Law Professor Alan

Dershowitz. The Muslim Legal Defense and Education Fund (MLDEF) says

Dershowitz violated rules of professional conduct when he advocated the

commission of war crimes and the use of torture.

MLDEF will hold a conference call today at 11 a.m. (EST) to discuss its

complaint. Media professionals may call 510-220-1414 to receive the phone

number and password.

In an article published in the Jerusalem Post and the New York Daily News

on March 11, 2002, Dershowitz advised the Israeli government to establish a

"waiting list" of Palestinian villages scheduled for destruction as a means

of deterring future suicide bombers. In so doing, he has violated Rule 8.4

(d) of the "Rules of Professional Conduct" which states: "It is

professional misconduct for a lawyer [in Mass.] to engage in conduct that

is prejudicial to the administration of justice."

As an officer of the legal system Prof. Dershowitz has sworn an oath to

uphold the laws of the State of Massachusetts and of the United States. The

latter includes international treaties and conventions to which the United

States is a signatory.

The destruction of villages is a Nuremberg War Crime and is contrary to

Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention which states: "No protected

person may be punished for an offense he or she has not personally

committed," and "collective penalties and likewise all measures of

intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited."

The Geneva Convention is a ratified treaty and is therefore a valid Federal

law of the United States.

"Traditionally the international community has only had the capacity to

deal with ethnic cleansing and genocide, through humanitarian assistance

for the victims or through war crimes tribunals, after it has occurred,"

said MLDEF Chair Al-Hajj Talib Karim Esq. "A much more effective approach

would be to censure those who are in the midst of laying the pseudo-legal

foundation for war crimes in the hope that the momentum towards such acts

is slowed or stopped," said Karim.

He added, "Surely the Board of Bar Overseers would have reprimanded a

Massachusetts lawyer who advocated in a Nazi-era newspaper for the

destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto. Such behavior is unbecoming of a lawyer,

and those who advocate such things ought to be disciplined."

Dershowitz recently advocated formulating a legal mechanism that would

allow police to obtain warrants permitting the use of torture.

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بارك الله فيك ياطفشان يا (لماح) .. الحقيقة كان نفسى اضع وصلة هذا الموضوع فى موضوع (اكذوبة الهيمنة الأمريكية) .. بس بصراحة كسلت أدور عليه فى ارتال الموضوعات .. بس فعلا كان قصدى ان الموضوعين يكملان بعضهما بعض ..

أكذوبة الهيمنة الأمريكية

الوصلـــــــــــــــــــــــــــة

و هما موضوعان لمن يريد أن يفهم الدنيا صح .. و يتعامل معها صح .. و ليسا للهيستريا و التشنج و النواح .. و استعراض الشعارات و اليفط و المغالطات ..

فيجب ان نقدر الأمور صح و على قدر حجمها فعلا و باسلوب علمى .. بحيث تكون الحلول المتخذة صحيحة و تؤدى الى نتائج ..

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم .. إن المنافقين فى الدرك الأسفل من النار ولن تجد لهم نصيرا .. صدق الله العظيم ( النساء – 145 )
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طب و بعدين .... سكتوا ليه .... أنا مش هأقول برافو و هايل و فكرة جميلة .... أنا هأقول سكتوا ليه .... ما شفناش منكم حاجة .... إتفقوا إزاي هتعرفوا الأخبار و إزاي هيتم الرد عليها (بالشكر و المساندة أو بالإعتراض) ... هل سيتم إقتراح رد موحد و لا كل واحد علي مزاجه .... هل هتعملوا منتدي و لا إيميلات بس في الأول ..... هتعملوا إيه .... و لا كفاية كلام و بس ... و نام زي غيرنا ما ناموا ....

أنا قصدي خير و الله .. و عايز أعمل حاجة ... أنا زهقت من الكلام ...

رحم الله الأفاكاتو وإخناتون وإسكنهم فسيح جناته

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وجوه في العاصفة - هل تحب عملك - كيف تعمل الأشياء - أزمة الحد الأدني

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اخى طفشان ...

خبر جديد لانج ....

تفضل فخامة و سعادة وزير خارجية بلدنا الميمون (الميمون هنا تذكرنى بالملاسنة التى جرت فى القمة الاسلامية :) ) فى مؤتمر صحفى ساخن أمس و قال ... ان لمصر موقف تجاه الازمة العراقية و سيتم الاعلان عنه فى حينه !!!!!

انتبهوا يا رجال الاعلام !!!!

استعدوا يا صحفى العالم ...

اجهزوا يا وكالات الانباء ...

اوقفى يا امريكا كل الاستعدادت الى ما بعد البيان ...

قفوا يا زعماء العالم لتسمعوا ما عجزتم عن قوله ....

اوعو تغيروا المحطة (على رأى هالة زفت سرحان )

ثم تحدث الرئيس (الميمون برضو :lol: )

للاسف انا الان فى العمل و لم اسمعه كننى سمعت عما قال ...

اكتموا انفاسكم ....

و لا حس ......

عاوزين نسمع .....

نحن نرفض و نشجب ما تفله امريكا بالعراق !!!

عمنا سعد قالها ....... مافيش فايدة

أحاول إحراقَ كلِ النصوصِ التي أرتديها.

فبعضُ القصائدِ قبْرٌ،

وبعضُ اللغاتِ كَفَنْ.

وواعدتُ آخِرَ أنْثى...

ولكنني جئتُ بعد مرورِ الزمنْ...

...

! !

من قصيدة " متى يعلنون وفاة العرب؟؟"

لنزار قبانى

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اقرأ و متع نظرك .....

http://www.aljazeera.net/news/arabic/2003/3/3-19-8.htm

أحاول إحراقَ كلِ النصوصِ التي أرتديها.

فبعضُ القصائدِ قبْرٌ،

وبعضُ اللغاتِ كَفَنْ.

وواعدتُ آخِرَ أنْثى...

ولكنني جئتُ بعد مرورِ الزمنْ...

...

! !

من قصيدة " متى يعلنون وفاة العرب؟؟"

لنزار قبانى

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موضوع مشابه

عبادة أمريكا أم مقتها؟ دراستها و التأثير عليها افضل!

http://www.egyptiantalks.org/phpBB2Plus/vi...opic.php?t=6017

الشعب اراد الحياة و القيد انكسر

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طيب يا أستاذ طفشان الجالية المصرية فى أمريكا مثلاً أو خلينا حتى نتكلم عن الجاليات العربية بشكل عام ايه دورها أو تأثيرها فى المجتمع الأمريكى؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ و ايه اللى بتفتقده الجاليات دى عشان تبقى مؤثرة فعلاً ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

أنا كنت شىء وصبحت شىء ثم شىء

شوف ربنا .. قادر على كل شىء

هز الشجر شواشيه ووشوشنى قال :

لابد ما يموت شىء عشان يحيا شىء

عجبى !!

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طيب يا أستاذ طفشان الجالية المصرية فى أمريكا مثلاً أو خلينا حتى نتكلم عن الجاليات العربية بشكل عام ايه دورها أو تأثيرها فى المجتمع الأمريكى؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ و ايه اللى بتفتقده الجاليات دى عشان تبقى مؤثرة فعلاً ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

شوفي يا ستي

الجالية العربية كانت بتحاول من زمان (يمن من الستينات)

بس مالهاش تأثير

لانهم كانوا بيبصوا انهم لبنانيين او عراقيين او مصريين الخ

مش مجرد عرب

و كمان في انشقاقات بسبب الدين برضه (اقباط، اشوريين، موارنة، الخ)

و كمان كان في حرب مستمرة من اللوبي الصهيوني القوي جدا

من حوالى 8 سنين بدأ اللوبي الاسلامي في العمل

و تأسست مؤسسات مثل كير CAIR للدفاع عن الحقوق المدنية للمسلمين (تفرقة في المعاملة، الوظائف، الصورة امام الاعلام، الخ) و غيرها (عمل سياسي موحد للمسلمين، توعية سياسية)

و نجحت هذه المؤسسات نجاح كبير في هذه المجالات، و تنظيم المسلمين سياسيا

و ان نتعلم من اساليب الاخرين - زي اليهود - من اين تؤكل الكتف

و بعدين حصلت حكاية 11 سبتمبر

و عدنا الى الصفر مرة اخرى، و اصبحنا في حالة دفاع و موضع اتهام بعد ان كان لنا صوت بدأ ان يكون مسموعا

و ساءت الامور بعدها بتطرف الادارة الامريكية

مثلا جون اشكروفت المنيل وزير العدل و ملاحقته للقيادات و الاعتقال و خلافه

و كذلك الهجوم من اليمين المتطرف المسيحي هنا ممثلا في قساوسة مقربين الى الحزب الجمهوري و بوش مثل جيري فالويل و فرانكلين جراهام و جيري فاينز و جيمي سواجرت و بات روبرتسون

و اللي انا شايفه ان العملية بقت شبه عند من الادارة

بيحاولوا يضايقوا المؤسسات دي او يندوا معاها عشان صوتها ما يتسمعش و تبقى في موقف الدفاع فقط

مثلا الادارة الامريكية عايزة تعين واحد اسمه دانيل بايبز في مؤسسة السلام US Institute of Peace، و هو يهودي متعصب متحامل بشدة على الاسلام من سنوات طويلة

و لكن الصورة ليست قاتمة

في يد العرب و المسلمين الكثير

مثلا: العمل مع الحزب الديمقراطي ليكسب الانتخابات القادمة و يسقط بوش و حزبه

و يمكن ان توظف اموال الخليج لحملات دعائية و مقابلات تلفزيونية

لان دي اصول اللعبة هنا

و جامعة الدول العربية يجب ان تقوم بدور ايضا و لو دعائي

محاولة استمالة و استقطاب العناصر المعتدلة (كولن باول مثلا)، و المعارضة (كارتر، رامسي كلارك، الخ)

المهم ان لا نقول مافيش فايدة، و نقعد نسب امريكا و خلاص

لان اليهود ما بيعملوش كدة

رفضوا ان يكونوا ضحية بعد هتلر و الحرب العالمية الثانية

و قرروا ان ينظموا انفسهم و يشكلوا جماعات ضغط (لوبي) و يستخدموا المال في الانتخابات، و يشكلوا الاعلام لصالحهم، الخ

اما نحن فنلعن الظلام بدلا من ان نوقد شمعة

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