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[Ihab]

hello Dr.Ihab... I want to ask you a question regarding working as a registrar in australia.. can you be promoted to a consultant job without being involved in a training program?

and can you appear in any exams while you are a service registrar?

I am not sure what you mean by a service registrar , there is no such thing in here

to be a consultant you have to be a registrar for a nuber of years and then take the particular royal college exams you are interested in and finish the training requirments

[Ihab]

dear dr.Ihab

i am going to have ph,d degree in oral and maxillofacial surgery ,can i know about the specialty assessment procedure by the way i am a dentist

thanks for your help in advance

that is really one of the most difficult specialties to get into in here

it is not impossible though

they do require a dental experience and then general surgical experience

here they have post graduate medicine degrees

that mean that you join the dentistery school and finish it and then join medical school and finish it

so usually those who want to join max fax here are dentisits as you are but then they join med school and graduate as doctors and then join the surgical training

this is a broad idea but i am not sure of the specific requirments to be a maxillo facial surgeon here but it is long and difficult pathway,

[Ihab]

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The eligibility criteria for AMC Graduates to be allocated are:

1. Completion of the AMC examination process, (both the MCQ and Clinical components)

2. Residency/work rights in Australia by way of:

�� Australian Citizenship or

�� Permanent Residency in Australia or

�� A Visa that allows the AMC graduate to work and live unrestricted in Australia for a

minimum of 12 months from the commencement of training

Applicants will be considered as permanent residents only if they have a permanent

residency visa at the time of applying. Should a Temporary Visa be cancelled by the

Department of Immigration and Citizenship, during the prevocational training period, the

employing hospital network is under no obligation to sponsor the graduate to continue

working.

يعني الIMET مش بتضمن work visa ?

YES , you have to arrange your own working visa before applying to the imet

أنا مش فاهم الحتة دي

يا ريت حد يوضحها أكتر

[Ihab]

[

The eligibility criteria for AMC Graduates to be allocated are:

1. Completion of the AMC examination process, (both the MCQ and Clinical components)

2. Residency/work rights in Australia by way of:

�� Australian Citizenship or

�� Permanent Residency in Australia or

�� A Visa that allows the AMC graduate to work and live unrestricted in Australia for a

minimum of 12 months from the commencement of training

Applicants will be considered as permanent residents only if they have a permanent

residency visa at the time of applying. Should a Temporary Visa be cancelled by the

Department of Immigration and Citizenship, during the prevocational training period, the

employing hospital network is under no obligation to sponsor the graduate to continue

working.

يعني الIMET مش بتضمن work visa ?

أنا مش فاهم الحتة دي

يا ريت حد يوضحها أكتر

صديقي وزميلي ,

الفكرة انه عشان يتم التوزيع لازم تكون خلصت اول امتحان وعندك فيزا عمل سارية تكفي لمدة 12 شهر

عشان يحطوك بقائمة التوزيع

بس الدكتور ايهاب حكى اول انه اذا انته لقيت عمل مع مستشفى ووظيفة Supervised traning

فانته تقدم عادي

بالنسبة للـ IMET ,,, وبالنسبة لشروطهم

السؤال طيب من وين اجيب فيزا عمل <<< من المستشفى

طيب شو فايدة IMET ؟؟

مالها فايدة والا شو ؟

the imet gets you the job if you meet their criteria

this is a different pathway to applying directly to hospitals

when you apply directly to a hospital and you get the job they will provide the visa it is quite difficult to find a job that way though

but to apply for the imet you must have the visa in advance and it is much easier to get a job that way IF YOU HAVE THE VISA

لانها ما راح تنسقلي مع مستشفى بالول وتعطيني الفيزا

والا قبل تسجيلي للـ IMET لازم فيزا

فكرة الدجاجة والا البيضة

!!!!!!!11111

[magdeaaa]

Dr.Ihab

now i learened somthing new in NSW

The pathway to get the Jop

(موضوع مهم )

First befor applying to any thing you MUST passed AMC MCQ exam and English( IELTS or OET)

First >>

find a Jop as an intern or residant in Hospital

then the emplyer or the Sponser ( the hospital) will fill the application of NSW medical board >> standerd pathway

then i'll fill the application for the NSW medical board

with all documents and requirments they needs

Second thing >>>

the Sponser will send you the temporary work visa

after he Nominat the name and register the applications in immigration department

<<<<<<<<

get your visa finally

====================================================

For all

its the same for AON and Rural exept that in the way of Sarching and applying to Rural Network Jop

====================================================

Now Docotor Ihab

Am I wronge in that ?

So tell me the Worth and The Use of IMET ????

=======================================

Thank you again

منتظرن رد الدكتور زياد او الدكتور إيهاب ع الطريقة دي

[Bluish]

شكرا يا دكتور مجدي على الرد والاهتمام

دلوقتي لو الواحد قدم على هجرة مع تقديمه للامتحانات

الهجرة دي لو اتقبلت بتضمنلك إقامة هناك من قبل ما تلاقي شغل؟

يعني زي موضوع كندا كده، الواحد يعمل المعادلة وهو بيقدم ورق الهجرة، وبكده يحل مشكلة الفيزا

أنا متأكد إن الناس هنا فكرت في الفكرة دي وقرأت فيها

لو حد يعرف حاجة عن السكة دي يبقى يقول

[Ihab]

Dr.Ihab

now i learened somthing new in NSW

The pathway to get the Jop

(موضوع مهم )

First befor applying to any thing you MUST passed AMC MCQ exam and English( IELTS or OET)

First >>

find a Jop as an intern or residant in Hospital

you can work as an intern after passing both parts and have a valid working visa

then the emplyer or the Sponser ( the hospital) will fill the application of NSW medical board >> standerd pathway

then i'll fill the application for the NSW medical board

with all documents and requirments they needs

basically the hospital will get you a support letter from the relevant royal college to apply for the nsw med board, so yes once you have a job the medical board registration is not a problem at all

Second thing >>>

the Sponser will send you the temporary work visa

after he Nominat the name and register the applications in immigration department

yes

<<<<<<<<

get your visa finally

====================================================

For all

its the same for AON and Rural exept that in the way of Sarching and applying to Rural Network Jop

====================================================

Now Docotor Ihab

Am I wronge in that ?

So tell me the Worth and The Use of IMET ????

i have answered this question many times before so i suggest you read the previous replies

=======================================

Thank you again

منتظرن رد الدكتور زياد او الدكتور إيهاب ع الطريقة دي

[salakawy]

Dr. Ihab you said:

when you apply directly to a hospital and you get the job they will provide the visa it is quite difficult to find a job that way though

so quite difficult means:

our chances is about how much roughly when we apply for:

1-resedent jobs?

2-accredited regesterar jobs?

3-non-accredited regesterar jobs?

thank you Dr. Ihab again

[Ihab]

شكرا يا دكتور مجدي على الرد والاهتمام

دلوقتي لو الواحد قدم على هجرة مع تقديمه للامتحانات

الهجرة دي لو اتقبلت بتضمنلك إقامة هناك من قبل ما تلاقي شغل؟

يعني زي موضوع كندا كده، الواحد يعمل المعادلة وهو بيقدم ورق الهجرة، وبكده يحل مشكلة الفيزا

that is exactly true, that is actually the bottom line of what i have been trying to say since the begining

In my opinion this is the best way to come to australia

do both together, exams and PR and when you come here you will easily find a job and your life should be easy afterwards

أنا متأكد إن الناس هنا فكرت في الفكرة دي وقرأت فيها

لو حد يعرف حاجة عن السكة دي يبقى يقول

[Ihab]

Dr. Ihab you said:

when you apply directly to a hospital and you get the job they will provide the visa it is quite difficult to find a job that way though

so quite difficult means:

our chances is about how much roughly when we apply for:

1-resedent jobs?

2-accredited regesterar jobs?

3-non-accredited regesterar jobs?

as i said before i think the chances for this pathway don't exceed 20-30%

i think the chances for a registrar job if you have previous relevant experience are a bit higher than those for resident jobs

non accredited registrar jobs are only present in the highly competitive specialties especially surgery but they are not present in medicine for instance

thank you Dr. Ihab again

[student]

dear dr.Ihab

i am going to have ph,d degree in oral and maxillofacial surgery ,can i know about the specialty assessment procedure by the way i am a dentist

thanks for your help in advance

that is really one of the most difficult specialties to get into in here

it is not impossible though

they do require a dental experience and then general surgical experience

here they have post graduate medicine degrees

that mean that you join the dentistery school and finish it and then join medical school and finish it

so usually those who want to join max fax here are dentisits as you are but then they join med school and graduate as doctors and then join the surgical training

this is a broad idea but i am not sure of the specific requirments to be a maxillo facial surgeon here but it is long and difficult pathway,

even if i am going to have a doctor in medical science from japan :cry:

[student]

dear dr.Ihab

i am going to have ph,d degree in oral and maxillofacial surgery ,can i know about the specialty assessment procedure by the way i am a dentist

thanks for your help in advance

that is really one of the most difficult specialties to get into in here

it is not impossible though

they do require a dental experience and then general surgical experience

here they have post graduate medicine degrees

that mean that you join the dentistery school and finish it and then join medical school and finish it

so usually those who want to join max fax here are dentisits as you are but then they join med school and graduate as doctors and then join the surgical training

this is a broad idea but i am not sure of the specific requirments to be a maxillo facial surgeon here but it is long and difficult pathway,

even if i am going to have a doctor in medical science from japan en shallah

:cry:

[nardeen]

اعجز ان اجد الكلمات التى اعبر بها عن شكري الجزيل لحضرتك يادكتور ايهاب للاهتمام بالرد والرد علي كل جذئية بكل امانة

بصراحة انا مندهشة من كرم حضرتك واهتمامك بالرد علي كل اسالة الاخوة في المنتدى

لان هذا اصبح غير واضح هنا بين المصريين وبعضهم البعض ربما لانشغال كل واحد باللهث لتحقيق اقل الاحلام الفردية لكل شخص وصعوبة الحياة هنا في مصر

وربما الحياة الهادءة والاحساس بالامان ولو لبعض الشئ عندكم في استراليا وهذاماسمعتة من الكثيرين عنكم في استراليا قد اعاد هذة النخوة وكرم الاخلاق لبعض واقول لبعض المصريين والذى اجد حضرتك منهم

وعلي فكرة امتحان الجذء الاول من amcلم يعد هنا في مصر من سنة 2009

شكرا ووفققك اللةو ازاد لك النجاح

:cry:

[jukass]

Thank you again Dr.Ihab

بارك الله فيك ووفقك لكل ما تحب وترضى وجعلك ذخرا للامة الاسلامية

امين امين امين

I'm NOW satisfied from the IMET and rhar stuff

The new thing that we need you to tell us about is

The Immigration and its Rule !!!

حدثنا عن الهجرة لاستراليا وتقديم اوراق الهجرة او اذا عندك معلومات عن اللجوء السياسي ؟؟

as its gonna help us in the working and finding jop !!

if its like that , ill start it from now to apply for immigration

THIS is the NEW Spot on Talking

we need somthung new and this is important to all of us

So talk to us about it if you dont minedu

and if there is any qustion about IMET or working in Australia >>>don't bother your self as im gonna to answer it

as im now know alots of things

SO , Let the Party Begines :cry:

[student]

Thank you again Dr.Ihab

بارك الله فيك ووفقك لكل ما تحب وترضى وجعلك ذخرا للامة الاسلامية

امين امين امين

I'm NOW satisfied from the IMET and rhar stuff

The new thing that we need you to tell us about is

The Immigration and its Rule !!!

حدثنا عن الهجرة لاستراليا وتقديم اوراق الهجرة او اذا عندك معلومات عن اللجوء السياسي ؟؟

as its gonna help us in the working and finding jop !!

if its like that , ill start it from now to apply for immigration

THIS is the NEW Spot on Talking

we need somthung new and this is important to all of us

So talk to us about it if you dont minedu

and if there is any qustion about IMET or working in Australia >>>don't bother your self as im gonna to answer it

as im now know alots of things

SO , Let the Party Begines bv:-

:wub:

[student]

Thank you again Dr.Ihab

بارك الله فيك ووفقك لكل ما تحب وترضى وجعلك ذخرا للامة الاسلامية

امين امين امين

I'm NOW satisfied from the IMET and rhar stuff

The new thing that we need you to tell us about is

The Immigration and its Rule !!!

حدثنا عن الهجرة لاستراليا وتقديم اوراق الهجرة او اذا عندك معلومات عن اللجوء السياسي ؟؟

as its gonna help us in the working and finding jop !!

if its like that , ill start it from now to apply for immigration

THIS is the NEW Spot on Talking

we need somthung new and this is important to all of us

So talk to us about it if you dont minedu

and if there is any qustion about IMET or working in Australia >>>don't bother your self as im gonna to answer it

as im now know alots of things

SO , Let the Party Begines bv:-

:wub: in addition to that there is a specific topic about the immigration to australia

[student]

i am sorry jukas

but i decided to write my objection because i love egypt

that's all and nothing personal

:wub:

[jukass]

i am sorry jukas

but i decided to write my objection because i love egypt

that's all and nothing personal

:wub:

لمعلوماتك بس

انا فلسطيني من غير جواز فلسطيني

معاي وثيقة سفر مصرية للاجئيين الفلسطنين

وانا بطلب اللجوء السياسي يا اخوي

انته وضعك كمصري ومحب مصرر كويس

بس انا لا ,,, ةضعي غير

[jukass]

Thank you again Dr.Ihab

بارك الله فيك ووفقك لكل ما تحب وترضى وجعلك ذخرا للامة الاسلامية

امين امين امين

I'm NOW satisfied from the IMET and rhar stuff

The new thing that we need you to tell us about is

The Immigration and its Rule !!!

حدثنا عن الهجرة لاستراليا وتقديم اوراق الهجرة او اذا عندك معلومات عن اللجوء السياسي ؟؟

as its gonna help us in the working and finding jop !!

if its like that , ill start it from now to apply for immigration

THIS is the NEW Spot on Talking

we need somthung new and this is important to all of us

So talk to us about it if you dont minedu

and if there is any qustion about IMET or working in Australia >>>don't bother your self as im gonna to answer it

as im now know alots of things

SO , Let the Party Begines bv:-

:wub: in addition to that there is a specific topic about the immigration to australia

يا صديقي العزيز

مو اني حطيت صيغة الحمع انه انته داخل

اذا بدك تسال اتفضل

بس الدكتور ايهاب صار له اسبوع وهو بس يجاوب على الاسئلة وانا لسه عندي اسالة

بس ليه ما نفتح المجال لموضوع تاني

وبالنسبة لصيغة الجمع فانا حطيتها نيابة عني وعن صديقي مجدي ,,, ارتحت هيك

وين هالتوبيك يا عم المحتج عليا

تم تعديل 1 مايو 2009 بواسطة jukass

[Bluish]

أنا مع فتح مناقشة موضوع الهجرة بشكل مفصل هنا في التوبيك ده

عشان كل الموجودين هنا أطباء ولهم هدف ووضع مختلف عن باقي المهتمين

بمناقشة الهجرة إلى استراليا

أضم صوتي إلى دكتور jukass في اقتراحه

ولكني طبعا أرفض فكرة اللجوء السياسي بشكل قاطع

تم تعديل 1 مايو 2009 بواسطة Bluish