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[Ihab]

And i have a question too,

If i came to Australia ISA with only AMC1 and IELTS what kind of work is available i don't mean the title but what exactly am i going to practice since the jobs titles are so confusing

Thats it and thanks

When you come here with the first and the english you can work as a resident or a registrar or a CMO

I spoke in detail about the resident duties in a previous post , so please go back and read that

as a registrar you will have a more senior role , so you see patients in ED for admissions, you do the ward round with or without the consultant and formulate a plan of management for each patient after liasing with the consultant, it obviously depends on what specialty are you doing but that is the essence of the job really, you are the senior doctor who is responsible and accountable for the patient's managment, obviously the consultant is also responsible but you share such responsibility while the resident is not reponsible or accountable for any management decision done for the patient.

CMO is the same as a registrar but it is a non training position (i.e it doesn't lead to being a consultant after a number of years) so once you are a CMO you will continue as a CMO unless you decide to change to a training position and become a registrar which is a failry easy step as you would have had a lot of clinical experience.

[Ihab]

دكتور زياد في سؤال مهم جدا

انا لو فرضا ما خلصت امتيازي وقدمت الامتحان الول وامتحان الانجليزي

هل ده بيقلل فرصي اني اشتغل باستراليا كـ intern

وهل بيغير شي من القوانين علي ؟؟

You can't work as an intern without doing the second part

Not finishing you internship in Egypt doesn't make a difference if you wanna work here as an intern, but if you want to work as a resident you have to have at least 2 years post graduate experience including your internship year

here is the job requirments for an intern in NSW which is pretty similar in all the states (copied from the IMET website)

Eligibility criteria for AMC Graduates

1. AMC Certificate following completion of the AMC examination process, (both the

MCQ and Clinical components), and

2. At the time of application, the applicant must have either Australian Citizenship or

Australian Permanent Residency or New Zealand Citizenship or valid Australian

visa that allows AMC graduate to work and live unrestricted for a minimum period

of 12 months from commencement of training (Please note that applicants will be

considered as permanent residents only if they have a permanent residency visa

at the time of applying. Should a Temporary Visa be cancelled by the Department

of Immigration and Citizenship, during the prevocational training period, the

employing hospital network is under no obligation to sponsor the graduate to

continue working), and

3. Successful completion of the IELTS (as evidenced by 7 or above in all

components of the IELTS) or OET examination process (as evidenced by A or B in

each component of the OET) within two years prior of the anticipated date of

registration with the NSW Medical Board. Please note that only the NSW Medical

Board can grant an exemption of this policy. AMC graduates are encouraged to

communicate directly with the NSW Medical Board regarding this policy. NSW

IMET will only accept evidence of English language proficiency or details of an

exemption to the English language policy from the NSW Medical Board. Should an

applicant not have this requirement at the time of submitting their application,

the application will not be considered as complete until the applicant meets the

English Language Policy of the NSW Medical Board or has gained an exemption of

the policy in writing from the NSW Medical Board

All graduates are required to meet the NSW Medical Board’s policy entitled, ‘Internship

and AMC Supervised Training’, policy number R7.6 (please visit NSW Medical Board

website www.nswmb.org.au to access this policy

).

[Ihab]

anothr one Dr.Ihab

how many years are needed to get the Full registration

(the Unconditionaled Registration)

of course after i finshed the exams

in case i'v AMC MCQ only

and

in the other case i'v Bothe Exams

( regarding that i'v already passed the English )

thank u

all regards :lol:

I have to say that it is really frustrating that the same questions are being asked again and again , we talked about that alot before , you need one year of practice before getting the general registration and at the time of writing this threrad you can only get it if you have both parts of the AMC

I answered the last few questions just because it is rude not to when someone is asking you but i have to apologize for any future questions that was asked before, i feel iam wasting my time and that i keep talking and talking and nothing gets registered and same questions are asked again and again

Guys , i really encourage you to look into the Indian sites and see what the indians are doing, look at AIPPG and feel sorry for the time you are wasting, you should spend certain time only planning and getting information and the rest should be working towards your goal, i really think we covered all the overview of the system that needs to be covered so i think a new topic should be opened by you guys discussing the questions of past papers and talking about IELTS preparation,

I don't think you or I should be talking about that any more unless there are new issues

Start doing questions, start preparing for IELTs and stop wasting your time

I will be more than happy to participate in the discussion of the questions If you want to

Anyway, thanks alot for your attention and interaction and all the best with your preparation for the AMC

[jukass]

Dr.Ihab ya 3azizy

ill write a cover letter for RMO ad give me your opinion in this letter

Im Anas Ahmed , Palestinian and taked my MD Bch from Misr Univercity For Scince and Technology in Egypt.

I passed AMC MCQ exam and i also Passed IELTS exam with 7.5 total score .

I want to get RMO job in the Hospital to finsh my requriment to get the uncondetional Registration of the medical board of Australia .

ill Attach my CV in this mail to review it and tell me your decision

All Regards

Dr.Anas A.

Dear Jukass

Thanks for the effort

two initial comments,

Extensive spelling mistakes, i can guarantee that no one will proceed to look at your CV with these mistakes, a good way to learn may be is to try and write it in Microsoft office and get the spelling check to get the right spelling

Second, there is no structure for your letter, so try and address the essential and the desirable criteria in a systematic way

All other contributions are welcome from the rest of the forum as well, any idea would be of benefit to all of us

thanks again jukass

مساء الخير يا دكتور ايهاب

يا ريت اتكمل معروفك وتكتبلنا هيك ورقة

letter

wst:: wst::

The Whole point of me talking about cover letters now was to get you to read the job ads and see what you are actually competing for and be prepared for it, obviously no one is interested to it is pointless to talk about it now

Dr.Ihab

u know that i gave u the efforets and asked u to give us some information about Cover Letter and we rode the Jop ads

so . its not that we not INTERESTING in it

what are you want to feel that we making INTERESTING to the topic ?

[jukass]

hi dr.Ihab

someone asked me about something

what is the best opportunity to get jop in Australia form all the pathways ?

is it AMC or other thing ?

i know u told us before that AMC 1+ IELTS is not like AMC 1+ AMC2 + IELTS

coulde u commente on that dr.Ihab

I am not sure what you mean, we talked about that alot in the previous threads , so what else do you wanna know?

NO u dont

Did u told us about the Special Pathway or worke based assesment

that is my questions

wst::

im not wasting ur time in my question

[jukass]

دكتور زياد في سؤال مهم جدا

انا لو فرضا ما خلصت امتيازي وقدمت الامتحان الول وامتحان الانجليزي

هل ده بيقلل فرصي اني اشتغل باستراليا كـ intern

وهل بيغير شي من القوانين علي ؟؟

You can't work as an intern without doing the second part

Not finishing you internship in Egypt doesn't make a difference if you wanna work here as an intern, but if you want to work as a resident you have to have at least 2 years post graduate experience including your internship year

here is the job requirments for an intern in NSW which is pretty similar in all the states (copied from the IMET website)

Eligibility criteria for AMC Graduates

1. AMC Certificate following completion of the AMC examination process, (both the

MCQ and Clinical components), and

2. At the time of application, the applicant must have either Australian Citizenship or

Australian Permanent Residency or New Zealand Citizenship or valid Australian

visa that allows AMC graduate to work and live unrestricted for a minimum period

of 12 months from commencement of training (Please note that applicants will be

considered as permanent residents only if they have a permanent residency visa

at the time of applying. Should a Temporary Visa be cancelled by the Department

of Immigration and Citizenship, during the prevocational training period, the

employing hospital network is under no obligation to sponsor the graduate to

continue working), and

3. Successful completion of the IELTS (as evidenced by 7 or above in all

components of the IELTS) or OET examination process (as evidenced by A or B in

each component of the OET) within two years prior of the anticipated date of

registration with the NSW Medical Board. Please note that only the NSW Medical

Board can grant an exemption of this policy. AMC graduates are encouraged to

communicate directly with the NSW Medical Board regarding this policy. NSW

IMET will only accept evidence of English language proficiency or details of an

exemption to the English language policy from the NSW Medical Board. Should an

applicant not have this requirement at the time of submitting their application,

the application will not be considered as complete until the applicant meets the

English Language Policy of the NSW Medical Board or has gained an exemption of

the policy in writing from the NSW Medical Board

All graduates are required to meet the NSW Medical Board’s policy entitled, ‘Internship

and AMC Supervised Training’, policy number R7.6 (please visit NSW Medical Board

website www.nswmb.org.au to access this policy

).

again u dont know what i meant for

and u bring somthing confused me again

You can't work as an intern without doing the second part

if u said that , so what about the working as an intern or a residant u told us if we fenished AMC 1 + IELTS

and the rules u wrote it

i know it all

[jukass]

anothr one Dr.Ihab

how many years are needed to get the Full registration

(the Unconditionaled Registration)

of course after i finshed the exams

in case i'v AMC MCQ only

and

in the other case i'v Bothe Exams

( regarding that i'v already passed the English )

thank u

all regards wst::

I have to say that it is really frustrating that the same questions are being asked again and again , we talked about that alot before , you need one year of practice before getting the general registration and at the time of writing this threrad you can only get it if you have both parts of the AMC

I answered the last few questions just because it is rude not to when someone is asking you but i have to apologize for any future questions that was asked before, i feel iam wasting my time and that i keep talking and talking and nothing gets registered and same questions are asked again and again

Guys , i really encourage you to look into the Indian sites and see what the indians are doing, look at AIPPG and feel sorry for the time you are wasting, you should spend certain time only planning and getting information and the rest should be working towards your goal, i really think we covered all the overview of the system that needs to be covered so i think a new topic should be opened by you guys discussing the questions of past papers and talking about IELTS preparation,

I don't think you or I should be talking about that any more unless there are new issues

Start doing questions, start preparing for IELTs and stop wasting your time

I will be more than happy to participate in the discussion of the questions If you want to

Anyway, thanks alot for your attention and interaction and all the best with your preparation for the AMC

its realy frustrating to know that u r not understanding my questions

i came with thos questions from the TIME wasted on the medical Sites

im wasting my time reading all the rules and for Day and Night im trying to be conocering to all topics

to rule out all the suspicions

not to wast u'r time

if u think that , so just dont answer it

u and i are dissimilar in that

for me if any one asked me about AMC, ill explain it to him till he satisfied

and if he asked me again

ill wast it again for him

u know why ?

because no one have to hold somthing to him only

that is all

im not offending u

im giving u the big compliment

u deserve it

wst::

and for the ideas u said it

im agree with u

and we gonna open a topic for explanation the IELTS and the previous exams if we found it

u know why?

because me and Magdee like to give efforts

that is why >>>

[YaserK]

دكتور زياد في سؤال مهم جدا

انا لو فرضا ما خلصت امتيازي وقدمت الامتحان الول وامتحان الانجليزي

هل ده بيقلل فرصي اني اشتغل باستراليا كـ intern

وهل بيغير شي من القوانين علي ؟؟

You can't work as an intern without doing the second part

Not finishing you internship in Egypt doesn't make a difference if you wanna work here as an intern, but if you want to work as a resident you have to have at least 2 years post graduate experience including your internship year

here is the job requirments for an intern in NSW which is pretty similar in all the states (copied from the IMET website)

Eligibility criteria for AMC Graduates

2. At the time of application, the applicant must have either Australian Citizenship or

Australian Permanent Residency or New Zealand Citizenship or valid Australian

visa that allows AMC graduate to work and live unrestricted for a minimum period

of 12 months from commencement of training (Please note that applicants will be

considered as permanent residents only if they have a permanent residency visa

at the time of applying. Should a Temporary Visa be cancelled by the Department

of Immigration and Citizenship, during the prevocational training period, the

employing hospital network is under no obligation to sponsor the graduate to

continue working)

).

Ihab,

Now I understand that in order to get General Registration, IMG must have AMC Exam done (2 parts) + working as an intern for one year. Then an IMG can apply for PR after getting General Registartion.

While working as an intern requires that IMG must have either Australian Citizenship or Australian Permanent Residency or New Zealand Citizenship or valid Australian visa that allows him/her to work and live unrestricted for a minimum period of 12 months from commencement of training.

So now working as an intern requires that IMG have the above mentioned reisdence documents (which IMG cannot have before getting General Registration). At the same time IMG must have worked as an intern in order to apply for General Registration. I see it a little bit confusing or may be I misunderstood some points.

Would you please explain?

تم تعديل 10 يونيو 2009 بواسطة YaserK

[Ihab]

You understood that exactly right ya yaser, and that is the main tricky point in the pathway, it is the chicken and the egg thing

It is not a must to have a PR before applying for intern job, you just have to have a valid working visa, the examples i have seen here amongest the indians and the pakistanis etc.. is someone who is coming with his wife and has a working visa on her visa (i.e. they apply as a family with the wife being the main sponsor) or less commonly someone who is applying for PR by some other way (like a science degree masalan)

That particular point is what makes the intern jobs more difficult because you have to have a working visa beforehand

You don't have to do that with resident or registrar or CMO jobs though, so if you were succesful in the interview the hospital can sponsor you for the visa which makes this a bit more appealing as you don't have to have the visa beforehand

In order to get general registration you have to do 12 months of supervised training as anything, not particularly as an intern, provided that the medical board approves the supervision reports for that year which is a smoother process if you are an intern but still fairly easy as a resident or a registrar

[magdeaaa]

anothr one Dr.Ihab

Guys , i really encourage you to look into the Indian sites and see what the indians are doing, look at AIPPG and feel sorry for the time you are wasting, you should spend certain time only planning and getting information and the rest should be working towards your goal, i really think we covered all the overview of the system that needs to be covered so i think a new topic should be opened by you guys discussing the questions of past papers and talking about IELTS preparation,

I don't think you or I should be talking about that any more unless there are new issues

Start doing questions, start preparing for IELTs and stop wasting your time

I will be more than happy to participate in the discussion of the questions If you want to

Anyway, thanks alot for your attention and interaction and all the best with your preparation for the AMC

مساء الخير يا جكتور إيهاب ويا دكتور انس

خير مالك زعلان يا دكتور إيهاب

احنا اعملنا زي ما انت كان نفس يصير ولكن مش على المنتدى هادا احنا حاليا شغالين في الدراسة والاسئلة وطريقة الامتحان

ياريت تتفضل اتزورنا في مالنتدى التالي

http://www.egymedicine.net/forumsx/t31292.html

http://www.egymedicine.net/forumsx/t39210.html

wst::

حابب اعمل تعليق بسيط

السبب في انوا انس بضل يسل نفس الاسئلة فقط لانوا في بعض الاحيان بحصل بعض التشتيت من بعض الاشخاص يلي بقلنا كلام تاني فإحنا بنرجع نسألك عشان نقدر انرد عليهم ونعرف نعيد ترتيب افكارنا

كمان شغلة تانية : بخصوص ال COVER LETTER

احنا بدنا إياتك تشرحها او تكتب عنها لسبب جميل جدا وهو

انوا احنا العرب في الوسط العربي بننحب ننساق خلف العواطف واما بنقدر نتحكم فيها بعكس الاوروبيون يلي بستخدموا لغة العقل عشان هيك كنا حابين تشرح عنها عشان انحاول نتعلم كيف بفكروا وكيف بدنا انصير انفكر زيهم وكيف بدنا منافسن لهم

وفي النهاية حابب ابعت تحاتي للجميع بالاخص ( الدكتور زياد و إيهاب و انس

[jukass]

يسلمووووووووووووووووووووو اخوي مجدي

والله انه انته الوحيد اللي حاسس بوضعي

كتير ما هي عارفه وضع الفلسطينية وكيف احوالهم

يسلمو لتقديرك

وتاني مرة بحكيها انا ما بعيد الاسئلة انا مجرد باملا الفراغات اللي ممكن تصير

وكلها فرضيات

وهاد الشي راجع الكم يا زياد ويا ايهاب

انا ما ني عاوز اخد من وقتكم الثمين اي شي

بالعكس انا اكتر من مرة بشكركم

بس المشكلة انه اسئلتي ماهي مفهومة

والغلط مني اني ماني قادر اوضحها

فمش مشكلة

ويسلمو تاني يامجدي

وروح ذاكر جراحة اطفال يلا

[khaledmh]

You understood that exactly right ya yaser, and that is the main tricky point in the pathway, it is the chicken and the egg thing

It is not a must to have a PR before applying for intern job, you just have to have a valid working visa, the examples i have seen here amongest the indians and the pakistanis etc.. is someone who is coming with his wife and has a working visa on her visa (i.e. they apply as a family with the wife being the main sponsor) or less commonly someone who is applying for PR by some other way (like a science degree masalan)

That particular point is what makes the intern jobs more difficult because you have to have a working visa beforehand

You don't have to do that with resident or registrar or CMO jobs though, so if you were succesful in the interview the hospital can sponsor you for the visa which makes this a bit more appealing as you don't have to have the visa beforehand

In order to get general registration you have to do 12 months of supervised training as anything, not particularly as an intern, provided that the medical board approves the supervision reports for that year which is a smoother process if you are an intern but still fairly easy as a resident or a registrar

Dear Ihab its not that we ask the same questions because we didn't see it before nor that we are stupid or something the only reason is because the whole process is so confusing that we feel like we are running in a circle and there are some inconsistency that needs clarification plus the whole intership thing is impossible to apply to without working visa

you see what i am trying to say is most of us need some guidance to the simplest and most direct way to come to Australia and become interns with an alternative way other than the one you mentioned several times .

I can't imagine how to get a working visa in the 1st place for us to become inters and this my friend is the problem because you gave example to the indians and how they deal with this problem but we aren't indians and most of us are still students or in IMTIAZ or even GPs and we all didn't get married or something and so we need your help to find us a way around this obstacle thats all my man.

And i wand to remind you that this topic started over a year ago and we are now in page 52 and most of us forgot alot of what was said in the beginning and some even didn'd start from the 1st page so try to forgive all of us because seriously you are more like a big brother to all of us and we depend on you and Ziad to erase our fears and doubts and help us through any obstacles we may have

all my respect wst:: wst:: :blink:

Ooh and dear jukass get a grip man :blink:

[khaledmh]

anothr one Dr.Ihab

Guys , i really encourage you to look into the Indian sites and see what the indians are doing, look at AIPPG and feel sorry for the time you are wasting, you should spend certain time only planning and getting information and the rest should be working towards your goal, i really think we covered all the overview of the system that needs to be covered so i think a new topic should be opened by you guys discussing the questions of past papers and talking about IELTS preparation,

I don't think you or I should be talking about that any more unless there are new issues

Start doing questions, start preparing for IELTs and stop wasting your time

I will be more than happy to participate in the discussion of the questions If you want to

Anyway, thanks alot for your attention and interaction and all the best with your preparation for the AMC

مساء الخير يا جكتور إيهاب ويا دكتور انس

خير مالك زعلان يا دكتور إيهاب

احنا اعملنا زي ما انت كان نفس يصير ولكن مش على المنتدى هادا احنا حاليا شغالين في الدراسة والاسئلة وطريقة الامتحان

ياريت تتفضل اتزورنا في مالنتدى التالي

http://www.egymedicine.net/forumsx/t31292.html

http://www.egymedicine.net/forumsx/t39210.html

wst::

حابب اعمل تعليق بسيط

السبب في انوا انس بضل يسل نفس الاسئلة فقط لانوا في بعض الاحيان بحصل بعض التشتيت من بعض الاشخاص يلي بقلنا كلام تاني فإحنا بنرجع نسألك عشان نقدر انرد عليهم ونعرف نعيد ترتيب افكارنا

كمان شغلة تانية : بخصوص ال COVER LETTER

احنا بدنا إياتك تشرحها او تكتب عنها لسبب جميل جدا وهو

انوا احنا العرب في الوسط العربي بننحب ننساق خلف العواطف واما بنقدر نتحكم فيها بعكس الاوروبيون يلي بستخدموا لغة العقل عشان هيك كنا حابين تشرح عنها عشان انحاول نتعلم كيف بفكروا وكيف بدنا انصير انفكر زيهم وكيف بدنا منافسن لهم

وفي النهاية حابب ابعت تحاتي للجميع بالاخص ( الدكتور زياد و إيهاب و انس

I can't agree more we need a base to build on .... you can't expect us to right a cover letter without knowing how it looks like . do you ? :rolleyes

[khaledmh]

Believe me jukass we are all in the same boat and its in our nature that we want to be prepared to every single problem that may arise in front of us especially that if we managed to leave this country we will be alone and any problem that mey happen that we aren't prepared for will have serious impact that we may not be able to handle

so yes you can ask as much as you want but without affecting the integrity of the conversation

my best regards

[jukass]

Dear dr.Khaled

thank you very very very much

u now see what im saying

at last , someone rather than my bro Magdee

i hope that will make it clear

another 2 things

u said

seriously you are more like a big brother to all of us and we depend on you and Ziad to erase our fears and doubts and help us through any obstacles we may have

this is what im saying it for a year

and still saying it for the next years

the other thing

thank u for the grip

and ill give u a one

wst::

[khaledmh]

You are welcome and i wish you all the success in getting to all your goals

wst::

and i have a question for you.. are you a student in ain shams 6th year too???

تم تعديل 10 يونيو 2009 بواسطة khaledmh

[jukass]

i wish u all the best in this Life and After

im in 6th year student in MUST univ.

in 6th october city

and ill finshed my exams on 15\7

and u ?

[abdallah]

[يسار][/يسار]Dear guys

have alook at this link

it might explain alot

http://www.medicalboard.qld.gov.au/img/standard.html

[magdeaaa]

صباح الخير للجميع بدون استثناء.

عشان انريح الجميع انا اليوم قمت بجمع ما قالة الدكتور إيهاب عن واجبات الدكتور في كل مرحلة

When you come here with the first and the english you can work as a resident or a registrar or a CMO

Duties of a resident largely depends on what term you are doing

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<

as we said before it is usually 3 monthly rotations between different specialties (unless you have a contract for a whole year with emergency department masalan)

In the wards , whether doing medicine or surgery your duties will be mainly clerical

In the morning you do the ward round with the registrar +/- the consultant and certain jobs will need to be arranged for the patient like ordering bloods , Xrays, writing discharge summaries, liasing with the GPs regarding something that needs to be followed up as an outpatient etc..

so in the wards as a resident you are not required to make a lot of decisions about the patient really

In emergency department it is a totally different story

You take the patient from the waiting room or in a bed and start seeing him, put a DD for the condition and formulate an initial management plan

Initially you will be required to discuss every patient with a senior person like a registrar or consultant, Now that is the important bit

you can't go and say i don't know what is wrong with that patient and i am not sure what to do with him

You Have to have an initall DD and Initial management plan , even if it is wrong no one will say anything if it is a logical plan, If you come up with nothing though you will be really scrutinized and every one will be very annoyed with you

then a decision will be made with the senior person re. admission or discharge , if the patient needs admission you will contact the relevant registrar on the wards either medical or surgical and present the case to him to come and review the patient and admit him

Presenting the case is an art and a science and you will get to your own terms with it with practice, but it is one of the most important things to learn as more than half of the medical practice really is communication

that is a quick idea about the resident duties but the main essence is that in ED you will be acting more like a doctor and on the wards more like a clerk

Duties of a registrar

>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<

you will have a more senior role , so you see patients in ED for admissions, you do the ward round with or without the consultant and formulate a plan of management for each patient after liasing with the consultant, it obviously depends on what specialty are you doing but that is the essence of the job really, you are the senior doctor who is responsible and accountable for the patient's managment, obviously the consultant is also responsible but you share such responsibility while the resident is not reponsible or accountable for any management decision done for the patient.

Duties of aCMO

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Is the same as a registrar but it is a non training position (i.e it doesn't lead to being a consultant after a number of years) so once you are a CMO you will continue as a CMO unless you decide to change to a training position and become a registrar which is a failry easy step as you would have had a lot of clinical experience.

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[Ihab]

Thanks guys for all the comments

I just want to explain why I was a bit upset

Now before I came to Australia I had no idea of the flow of the system and what you should do to get into training etc.., Now I know such information and I feel obliged in a way to try and tell other people about it especially Egyptians, so my main -and probably only- motivation is to try and get you guys to understand how it goes here,

So when I spend that time on the forum writing this information aiming at helping you guys I expect that there will be at least the mutual courtesy of reading that before asking again, this would make me feel that I am not wasting my time, otherwise what is the point?

For the record

I NEVER said you can work as an intern with the first part only

We did speak about the workplace based assessment before and I said that it is not implemented yet

I am not sure how the specialist assessment pathway would be relevant to a final year medical student or an intern

About the Cover letter

I believe in the saying “ Easy come Easy go” and I think the best evidence of that is the last 20 pages that I have written here

We are used to being spoon fed all the information and that is a long heritage precipitated by a lot of “ eldoroos elkhososya” and we are definitely not used to searching and extracting the information

I was really surprised by the question asked by Khaled if I am expecting you to write a cover letter by yourself, and at the end of the question DO YOU and rolled eyes

Who do you think helped me with my first cover or my first CV? And who do you think will help you with them? You guys are on your own once you finish medical school and internship you will have to draw every step of the way yourselves.

I didn’t leave you without clues though when anass has written a preliminary letter I told him what to do to improve it but there was no response after that

For magde

Thanks a lot for your nice words, you are obviously a very decent person w rabena yewafa2ak insha2allah

I had a look at the link you gave me and I was really impressed, I wasn’t aware that you guys are that far into doing questions and practicing, so all the best for you all

What I would suggest is that you put the questions on the forum for open discussion in which every one can participate and benefit and do the questions from past papers which are present on the AIPPG website , they are the most relevant to the exam, obviously the bridging courses are good but past papers are the best preparation, the problem is that they are not always well written and you don’t know the correct answers that is why the discussion is important

I am still more than happy to provide any advice to the best of my knowledge but please read the previous posts before asking new questions

If it is too much effort to go through 52 pages then I think it would be impossible to go the whole way

And please (especially anass) if you want to ask me a question just ask it directly so if you want to ask about work place based assessment or specialist assessment just ask that directly rather than asking about other pathways

Thanks guys